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	<title>Comments on: Fences and Bridges</title>
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	<description>plug in, crank it to eleven.</description>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you could revisit the topic from the point of view that bug tracking systems really are often an obstacle rather than an advantage. These need resources, maintenance, and most of all, time and manpower. Not all &#039;upstreams&#039; are huge &#039;communities&#039; such as Ubuntu or Gnome.

In many settings the &#039;old-fashioned&#039; mailing lists are indeed a much better way to handle bugs and other development issues than often heavy and clumsy web-based interfaces. It is ironical that once a bug tracking system is installed, there needs to be special people to &quot;squash&quot; the bugs by going through all those INVALID or WONTFIX -type bugs so often filed by persons not part of those &quot;bridge people&quot; you mention. All this is away from the time reserved for the actual development.

Cheers, and IMO, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you could revisit the topic from the point of view that bug tracking systems really are often an obstacle rather than an advantage. These need resources, maintenance, and most of all, time and manpower. Not all &#8216;upstreams&#8217; are huge &#8216;communities&#8217; such as Ubuntu or Gnome.</p>
<p>In many settings the &#8216;old-fashioned&#8217; mailing lists are indeed a much better way to handle bugs and other development issues than often heavy and clumsy web-based interfaces. It is ironical that once a bug tracking system is installed, there needs to be special people to &#8220;squash&#8221; the bugs by going through all those INVALID or WONTFIX -type bugs so often filed by persons not part of those &#8220;bridge people&#8221; you mention. All this is away from the time reserved for the actual development.</p>
<p>Cheers, and IMO, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why Debian has maintainers, to interact with the wider free software community on our behalf. I think Ubuntu should have the same (or just have all Ubuntu folks switch to and join Debian).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why Debian has maintainers, to interact with the wider free software community on our behalf. I think Ubuntu should have the same (or just have all Ubuntu folks switch to and join Debian).</p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just today I got told to upstream a bug and was wondering the same thing..
I didn&#039;t realize it was so complicated.  More upstream contacts would be great.

Ubuntu has more testers than any other platform on the face of this ever-loving earth, and it&#039;s a real shame to waste any of that power; it&#039;s arguably our greatest resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today I got told to upstream a bug and was wondering the same thing..<br />
I didn&#8217;t realize it was so complicated.  More upstream contacts would be great.</p>
<p>Ubuntu has more testers than any other platform on the face of this ever-loving earth, and it&#8217;s a real shame to waste any of that power; it&#8217;s arguably our greatest resource.</p>
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		<title>By: smudo</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>smudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you could send a monthly bug digest (automated) to your upstreams. If people think it is spam they can unsubscribe or something.

But I think alerting upstreams of bugs would be the right thing to do and should be the default for all Ubuntu packages (IMNSHO).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you could send a monthly bug digest (automated) to your upstreams. If people think it is spam they can unsubscribe or something.</p>
<p>But I think alerting upstreams of bugs would be the right thing to do and should be the default for all Ubuntu packages (IMNSHO).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a feature of wordpress, noticed on planet my posts don&#039;t show up in the full RSS reader either.  Ping me if you figure it out Jorge.

Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a feature of wordpress, noticed on planet my posts don&#8217;t show up in the full RSS reader either.  Ping me if you figure it out Jorge.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: jcastro</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>jcastro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to fix it. I hate the internet. That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to fix it. I hate the internet. That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfger</title>
		<link>http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/fences-and-bridges/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge: Not sure why you changed blogs, but I&#039;d just like to say I&#039;m very disappointed you&#039;re no longer going with a full RSS feed. I find it very annoying to have to leave my RSS reader to read the posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge: Not sure why you changed blogs, but I&#8217;d just like to say I&#8217;m very disappointed you&#8217;re no longer going with a full RSS feed. I find it very annoying to have to leave my RSS reader to read the posts.</p>
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